Anna Interview: Barriers

Updated: Jan 29

This is a video interview with Anna, discussing her barriers to employment and thriving in the workplace. Below the video is a transcript for those who would prefer just to read the interview.


Video Transcript:

Edited for clarity.


Tiffany:

No, what I mean, and that's the thing. That initial thing. So then the next question is, you know, based on the way organizations are currently run, how, what are the barriers for you? Like?


Anna:

So the big barrier is when to disclose and how to do it. So that's been, for example, I would love to tie it into an interview and from my knowledge in the field that can, or at least over here and my knowledge in the field that I've worked in, that's often discouraged. And I like to tie it into why I'm a good fit for the role because of it. So it's all already on the table and I feel that that's really challenging. So I have, I've never done that except for one time when I was going to be an orien- I was applying to be an orientation leader in college. That was the last time I disclosed during an interview. And it went really well. Like I ended up not doing it, but it was because I was actually, I'm almost about to graduate and they want somebody that would be back in the fall. But since then, I've been concerned too, because of all the feedback I've gotten, that's a bad, a bad way to go about it for legal reasons and things like that. And just, I'm not sure if this is completely the answer, or kind of, answering your question, but one thing I find challenging in the beginning is sometimes you just get thrown right into training in their way, like. In the way that whatever an employer is doing. And it, I find it really hard to figure out how to say kind of like hold, you know, slow down.

This is the way I learned is this able to be refigured out, which is why, which is why I like to have these discussions before choosing a job. Because I've been to the point where my brain is too busy, trying to follow what I'm being trained, that my brain can't say, actually, this isn't the way I learn until it's a little bit far in the process. And that's caused problems with my employment where by that time employers are like, yeah, we're kind of on our last, our last like basically we're not going to put up with us any longer. We're on our last legs of putting up with the situation now that you're finally telling us.

And there's been very few times that I have disclosed in my life, but that is often how it goes. And I've also had a lot of people in the industry over here when I've worked in it saying never disclosed before two weeks, always do two weeks on the job. You know, never say anything before two weeks, if it's a problem after two weeks disclose. And I'm always like, I want to say something before I'm hired. I want to say something day one, because then it's really hard for me to even go back and start to learn those processes the way I learned, because some of the, some little parts of, of things are still in my mind. So it's almost like I get it's like the moment's already been passed to really capitalize on my verbal learning. So that's something that I feel is very challenging and all the time, while I'm sort of trying to fall on and try to hope that me and my brain will click it because sometimes it does. All of a sudden my brain is like, Oh wait, nevermind, nevermind. I do get this.

Then I'm also putting a lot of effort into putting on that good face and connecting kind of socially with my, my coworkers and employers, you know, too, cause that's also an important part of starting a new role and that that combination can be exhausting trying like, like I just want to be silent to really pay attention, but I also have to smile at every coworker and have a little, you know, professional social conversation. So those are some of the things that I find the most challenging when I get started.


Tiffany:

So I, not to do with the interview, but I'm sorry I have to start this thing recording over here. I'm multitasking as always. So, I totally disagree with people that are telling you not to disclose. And I think the biggest reason is because you understand yourself so well, you need to advocate. And what I preach a lot in my company is “I work best when,” and, and I think you have all the skills right and every reason to do that. And then you're going in, if you wait two weeks, everything you do before that doesn't matter. So I think that, you know, your knowledge of yourself and having that and just saying, I will learn better if I do it this way, but man, I'm a rock star once I get going. That, to me, is very fair game. And I think even today, the employers will take that more openly. And if they don’t, you don't want to probably be there.


Anna:

Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, I've definitely worked for employers where if I would have disclosed, they would not have hired me. And sometimes I look back and like, and maybe I would have been okay, like, sure there are good parts of those jobs, but I was nearly because my hiring manager was great, but there was other culture that wouldn't have hired me, you know? Like, and maybe that wasn't the, you know, place I want to be.


Tiffany:

Yeah. And I think people don't give themselves enough credit that they deserve to have that, you know, it's your right to have an environment that's right for you because you've not, you're going to, you know, A: fail, which, and then they fail. It's a mutually failed situation. You know, you lose money, they lose money, but also you know, you'll be a better employee, you know, they want, so I would just, and we could talk about it offline more, but I completely disagree with that. And especially with your self knowledge of it, I think it's really silly for you not to advocate for yourself at the beginning. So I don't know.


Anna:

I 100% agree.


Tiffany:

Do what you know, in your gut, they'll listen to other people, you know, yourself really well. You really do. Follow your instincts.


Anna:

Yeah. Thank you.


To see Anna's interview on Challenges, click here.

To see Anna's interview on Enablers, click here.

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